eBay Multiple Quantity Items - Incorrect Billing to Customers

If you are selling multiple quantity items eBay is still combing the weights of the items ordered and billing the customer for the combined weight even though you have a eBay combined shipping rule set to “No discount” (i.e., do not combine weights).

Before eBay stated I needed to set this rule after 26 years of being on eBay to prevent this form happening and now they are telling me it doe snot prevent that, but can’r provide a explanation about what the rule does - apparently nothing at all.

A recent multiple quantity order for two items had a retail shipping price of $11.55 for each 1 pound item. eBay should have thus billed the customer for $23.10. The customer would then pay and receive a refund if any were due or simply request a combined invoice before they pay. This is done in case the item is subject to dimensional rates or in some cases it may be cheaper to send the item out as two packages instead of paying the dimensional.

Instead eBay combined the 1 pound rate of each item into 2 pounds and billed the customer for a 2 pound package to zone 7 which was $14.90 at retail prices.

If the combined size of the items were over a cubic foot; for example 12.5” x 12” x 12”, the commercial rate would have been $19.23 for this particular buyer.

In this case the box for the combined item was below a cubic foot - luckily for eBay.

eBay customer service’s first claims to misunderstand that I was shorted on the shipping and tells me to make up for the amount I was shorted on the shipping by:

A. Cancelling the order and relisting it. That makes no sense as the same exact problem would occur.

B. Get a payment from the buyer for additional shipping from a source outside of eBay. So eBay is telling me to commit off eBay sales to complete the order - amazingly stupid. Of course it would be idiotic to accept such a payment in the first since it would have a high degree of potential fraud on part of the buyer. This is of course assumes the buyer wouldn’t leave negative feedback immediately.

Then eBay tells me it occurred because there were no dimensions for one item. I upload 99.99% of items with dimensions since the initial rate is calculated on the weight alone. Never been a problem!

But that is also a lie by eBay.

As I still have inventory left in the multiple quantity listing I added a package size of 12” x 12" x 12”. I then added a quantity of two to my shopping cart in another browser while not signed into an eBay account. The retail shipping rate shown is still based on combining the weight. Two stacked 12”x 12” x 12” items would shipped out as a 12” x 12” x 24” package and thus subject to dimensional rate, which would be $62.80 at the retail rate or $38.48 at the commercial rate if this same buyer had purchased the items.

Then eBay tells me I need to list the items as individual items, which makes no sense at all as they will be pulled as duplicate listings.

Then eBay tells I need to use a flat rate. Yeah right.

For most of eBay’s history multiple quantity items were billed by charging the customer the shipping cost for each item times the number of items they ordered.

One feels brain cells dying when talking to to people from eBay.

So eBay is completely ignorant about how shipping works or this is another scam designed to lower prices for buyers on listings with no regard to the seller being shorted on shipping. I pick the later reason.

If you ever do get ebay to charge exact shipping then you will be loosing 15%… at least… because ebay charges you fees on every dollar collected. I add weight to every item listed so ebay over collects on shipping. No listing is less than 12 ounces USPS Ground because of loosing this 15% in fees. This has been working pretty good except in the local rates where USPS charges the same for weight in the 1-6 pound range and then ebay is only collecting exact shipping and I loose the 15%. This is happening maybe 5% of my sales.

I charge USPS retail prices on items while paying the commercial rates. The difference pays for the FVF on the shipping so I do not loose any money. This is used on 99.9% of items as they are smaller items not subject to dimensional rates. These do not have to edited when rates go up as eBay will auto adjust the shipping rates.

This will not work for larger USPS items subject to high dimensional rates as the difference between retail and commercial is too large. The retail is too much thus you need to calculate the highest possible commercial shipping rate to all 50 states, or just the Lower 48 via blocking Hawaii and Alaska, and then increase the price of the item by 20% of this shipping amount to account for FVF on the shipping.

UPS retail prices can be as much as 70% higher than the commercial rate so retail prices can’t be used. You have to use the same strategy as mentioned above for larger sizes USPS packages. These types of listing will require editing when rates go up.

I do not loose money on shipping.

Unfortunately eBay has taken away the ability to list items with both USPS commercial rates and retail rates at the same time. eBay does Ground Advantage and Ground Advantage Retail on the listing form so you can override your carrier discount preferences on individual listings. Prior to July of 2023 you could do this as Parcel Select and USPS Retail Ground were options on the listing form.

eBay finally claimed they would have someone “on the backend” fix this and contact me in 24 hours, but they never contacted me.

They appear to have done this per the last call to them.

Previously creating the new combined shipping rule to not combine the weights (i.e., “No Discount”) did not alter any listing. There was also no way to apply the rule within each listings.

Now if I go to a listing on eBay with calculated combined shipping I will see a little checkbox called “Calculated shipping rule”, which when checked will now bill the customer for the amount of shipping times the number of items they order by default instead of combining the weights to calculate the rate.

I cannot name this rule on eBay so after updating GS it appears as “Untitled Calculated Discount Profile” under the account name under the advanced options in GS.

I too was charging USPS retail rates and after the last price increase the USPS did my sales went off a cliff. I decided to try using the USPS commercial rates negotiated by ebay. My sales literally doubled and went back up to previous levels plus some. True, this may just be chance that the sales suddenly went up the same day after sliding down for 3 months. So what I do to make up the FVF is add to the weight so I get at least the actual plus the FVF that ebay takes. I just lose the FVF every now and then to the local shipping that is the same rate for 1 to 5 pounds. But sales has so much improved I consider it worth it.

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