Hi David,
I Agree. Since I’m not sure what the “verifying” actually does and since the listing will be “verified” by eBay when the listing is actually started.
Also, an Advanced preference (oops, I mean Setting) to turn off (and remove) the the “$” amount calculation (or preflight errors) next to the Start toolbar button, since the $ is not correct, if you have an eBay Store (or get free listings).
Happy Holidays!
Neal
Neil. I rarely need to verify a listing as I always duplicate an existing listing. That way I know that the new listing has been verified by default. Of course, there is always the situation when EBay makes a change! However, one soon finds out.
David,
Me too.
Yes, I agree.
Yes.
Happy New Year!
Neal
Thanks Neal.
I wonder how many others feel the same way?
David
What is being “verified”?
A very good question, Richard. Some months back I brought up the question of more info being sent to the Activity Window but that topic seems to have gone quiet. This is one of the issues of GS Support not making available a list of what is being worked on. I was reluctant to mention this because I know GS support do not like this idea. It would be useful though and avoid repeated posts.
Regards David
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I am not trying to be controversial just curious as to what is being verified? Listing contents, phone numbers being included, web sites, off ebay sales addresses? comes to mind. Those things ebay considers taboo
I am not trying to be controversial either, or difficult. I am just reporting what I am seeing. Another hidden activity is ‘erase all deleted items’ With a few 1000 in the deleted folder, I will lost control of GS for quite a long time (spinning beachball). Maybe I am just being a bit naive, but I would have thought it only need to remove some sort of index and should be fairly quick. Maybe someone in GS can explain to be what is happening during this process?
David
Hi David,
Erasing all listings from the trash is a fairly complicated and expensive operation. GarageSale has to lookup all images no longer needed, all dependent objects needs to be updated (e.g. orders, inventory, etc.) and all the no longer needed data must be actually erased from the hard disk/ssd. Maybe it helps when you empty your trash more often?
Regards,
Paul
Hi,
basically there are two different verifications:
The “online” verification is done through eBay and may take some time as networking needs to be done, but as you already found out it can be disabled.
The offline/local verification is basically a check whether the listing has a description, a (valid) category, all required specifics set, valid shipping options etc. This should be really fast and I have my doubts that this can lead to any beach ball for 1000 listings. Theoretically this will be expensive for 50,000 - 100,000 listings.
If you really encounter a beachball with the later kind of verification, please try to make a sample/spindump with the “Activity Viewer” application. This may help tracking down what takes so long in your specific case.
Thanks,
Paul
Hi David,
when I remember it correctly, eBay requires us to use as few as possible AddItem API calls and use a VerifyAddItem call before each of these calls. With the option to run only local verification we may already do something eBay do not want us to do. The reason for that is that for eBay the verify call is not as expensive as the add item call is.
Also, eBay limits the maximum number of API calls GarageSale can do (on a hourly/daily/monthly basis). So we have to be careful and can not just throw a huge number of calls to them with e.g. a missing description or no shipping options. So we can not simply disable all verification (in addition, GarageSale may crash later on when some required fields are completely missing).
But as stated earlier, we may speed up things when we know what exactly leads to the beachball in your case. Simply send us a spindump/sample when the beachball occurs.
Thanks,
Paul
Thanks for the verification explanation, Paul.
Would it be possible then to expand:
to change the ‘Run Only local verification….’
to two selections:
A few of us find the current setting a little ambiguous and it seems that whichever selection I use I still see verification messages appearing in the Activity Window but I have no idea if they are local or Ebay.
David
Hi Paul
Hadn’t seen this message on verification prior to my last response.
But as stated earlier, we may speed up things when we know what exactly leads to the beachball in your case. Simply send us a spindump/sample when the beachball occurs.
I would still love to see more information in the Activity Viewer. Even if is just to show that GS has not hung.
David
And one more thing on the topic.
When I selected the following 222 ‘ended with a sale’ items and then re-listed them.
I can see two levels of verification in the Activity Window.
David
Perhaps if you/we could schedule the cancel and restarts for times you are away from the computer it wouldn’t cause GS to be unusable? This way the verification processing time would not matter any more.
I see where you are coming from, Martin, but I would prefer to keep my eyes on the listing for any that fail. I have had to rebuild my DB twice in two years and consequently I am being very cautious. Besides, once listing has commenced I can still use GB.
The two non productive issues are ‘select all’ on a big folder and 'erase all deleted items.
Paul is correct in saying that erasing in smaller amounts would help but with 30,000+ items ending in the deleted folder each month it is not quite so simple and the unproductive time will be the same whether I do 1000 per day for a month or 30,000 once per month.
Scheduled deletions would help.
PS. Maybe Paul could explain what ‘select all’ takes so long?
Regards David
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Perhaps if you/we could schedule the cancel and restarts for times you are away from the computer it wouldn’t cause GS to be unusable? This way the verification processing time would not matter any more.
Sorry that this is off topic. I am reporting a LOOONG beach ball occurrence. Here is a spindump on 532 listings that I changed 1 word in a pro listing components. It beach balls for 5 minutes. If I do 10 listings it is done in a split second. 1,000 and it will take 10 or more minutes, 1-2 seconds per listing, to change 1 word in a listing component. I did 2 spindumps, I wasn’t sure if all info was in 1
I have been asking for this for years… 
“How about adding the Auto-Delete of Deleted Listings (107506) and Deleted Orders (17050)???”
Just like the Finder does…
Happy New Year!
Neal
agreed! I use a periodic reminder (as in Reminders.app) to delete anything more than 3000 items in the trash, and I find myself doing it every couple weeks.
The mechanism in Photos.app is also very intuitive, for me: Deleted Items have to be “recovered” manually, and do not show up in searches.
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